{"id":643,"date":"2011-02-21T12:09:07","date_gmt":"2011-02-21T10:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/?p=643"},"modified":"2011-02-21T16:19:27","modified_gmt":"2011-02-21T14:19:27","slug":"debian-spring-cleanup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/?p=643","title":{"rendered":"Debian Spring Cleanup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We have many orphaned packages in Debian. Those are packages that no longer have a maintainer willing to care for them. They are a problem for several reasons. Often, there have better alternatives (that&#8217;s often why the maintainer gave up maintenance), but users keep installing them because they show up in <i>apt-cache search<\/i>. Or, they might be broken, without anybody noticing because they only have a few users. Also, developers need to take them into account. They might slow down transitions, have RC bugs that need fixing, etc.<\/p>\n<p>So, there are good reasons to remove some of the orphaned packages from the Debian archive. Not all of them. But those that have been orphaned for a long time without anybody stepping up to take over the maintenance, have very few users according to popcon, etc. Removing some of them also makes it easier to expose the ones that should really find an adopter.<\/p>\n<p>Also, that removal is not final. The good reason to do this now is that we are at the beginning of a release cycle, and that it will be easy to reintroduce packages that are really needed during the next two years. Also, packages (both source and binaries) are still available on <a href=\"http:\/\/snapshot.debian.org\/\">snapshot.debian.org<\/a>, so users can still install them from there, and re-uploading them to Debian is very easy if someone wants to adopt them.<\/p>\n<p>So, how do I proceed? I use <a href=\"http:\/\/udd.debian.org\/bapase.cgi?t=o\">bapase<\/a>, and go through specific sets of packages (using a custom version of bapase to restrict the list to those packages). For example, orphaned packages that have a popcon lower than 50, have been orphaned for more than 500 days, and whose orphaning bugs have not been modified in the last 100 days. Then, I read the bug log, and decide if there&#8217;s a reason to keep the package. If there&#8217;s not, I request the removal.<\/p>\n<p>As of today, there are 471 orphaned packages in Debian. The goal is not to get down to zero, but it&#8217;s certainly possible to get down to 200 or 250.<\/p>\n<p>How can you help? Start from the list, and find some easy targets. You can take a look at <a href=\"http:\/\/bugs.debian.org\/cgi-bin\/bugreport.cgi?bug=483252\">bug #483252<\/a> if you want to re-use my template. Also, one thing that is currently missing in the process is that orphaned packages that have reverse-dependencies should not be removed without removing their dependencies (if appropriate). An easy and efficient way to know if a given package has reverse (build-)?dependencies would be great, so I could integrate this info into bapase and exclude those packages from the list, or mark them somehow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We have many orphaned packages in Debian. Those are packages that no longer have a maintainer willing to care for them. They are a problem for several reasons. Often, there have better alternatives (that&#8217;s often why the maintainer gave up maintenance), but users keep installing them because they show up in apt-cache search. Or, they [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"0","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-643","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-planetdebian"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/643","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=643"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/643\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":646,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/643\/revisions\/646"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=643"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=643"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=643"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}