{"id":763,"date":"2013-03-16T21:05:24","date_gmt":"2013-03-16T19:05:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/?p=763"},"modified":"2013-03-18T17:36:36","modified_gmt":"2013-03-18T15:36:36","slug":"ideas-from-the-vote-dpl-election-discussions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/?p=763","title":{"rendered":"Ideas from the -vote@ DPL election discussions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After one week of campaign on -vote@, many subjects have been mentioned already. I&#8217;m trying here to list the concrete, actionable ideas I found interesting (does not necessarily mean that I agree with all of them) and that may be worth further discussion at a less busy time. There&#8217;s obviously some amount of subjectivity in such a list, and I&#8217;m also slightly biased ;) . Feel free to point to missing ideas or references (when an idea appeared in several emails, I&#8217;ve generally tried to use the first reference).<\/p>\n<p><strong>On the campaign itself, and having general discussions inside Debian:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>have those discussions on a more regular basis, outside DPL elections (from <a href=\"https:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-vote\/2013\/03\/msg00125.html\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>use polls to measure consensus (from <a href=\"https:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-vote\/2013\/03\/msg00144.html\">lucas<\/a>, question from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/E1UGRoJ-000158-EK@bletchley.towers.org.uk\">mjr<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>use a pre-arranged questionnaire that DPL candidates would fill in (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/87zjy3egp8.fsf@galadriel.madhouse-project.org\">algernon<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>On getting new users and contributors to Debian:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>discussion on the various steps: Debian user &#8211; first contribution &#8211; regular contributor &#8211; DM\/DD (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130310223902.GB23114@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>maintain a single list of &#8220;paths in&#8221; (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/2acfc7ca51e34fe8da428d5cb2ce93ec@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312121803.GA27952@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>have some &#8220;neutral&#8221; people to ask about tasks, and to get suggestions from in response to explaining their current skills and experience (e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debian.org\/women\/mentoring\">http:\/\/www.debian.org\/women\/mentoring<\/a>) (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/acfc7ca51e34fe8da428d5cb2ce93ec@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>more local meetings, compile list of regional contacts (<a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/2acfc7ca51e34fe8da428d5cb2ce93ec@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>increase Debian presence at local meetings. Advertise the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debian.org\/events\/\">Debian Events<\/a> initiative that facilitates that (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130316102105.GB14001@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>provide &#8220;Debian ambassador&#8221; title for students, similar to what is done by Google or Microsoft (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/f6e1c1c6a8f4306e9722b43815e1437a@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>re-work on advertising <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.debian.org\/qa.debian.org\/GiftTag\">gift tags<\/a> (bugs suitable for new contributors) (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130310223902.GB23114@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>make sure teams have list of easy tasks in their <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.debian.org\/Teams\">wiki pages<\/a> (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312121803.GA27952@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>discussion on student projects involving Debian (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130316152803.GA24852@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>do mentoring inside teams, like <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.debian.org\/DebianMed\/MoM\">DebianMed&#8217;s MoM<\/a> (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/18bf9798eb4b9698bc14bb1c6abf7f0c@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>participate in other internship-like programs, like <a href=\"https:\/\/live.gnome.org\/OutreachProgramForWomen\">Outreach Program for Women<\/a> (link from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130311202603.GA27067@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>), or organize our own, which would also avoid some restrictions from GSoC (northern hemisphere only (point made by <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/dc285e8d586bdb7e73f990d0b38a7558@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>), restricted to students (<a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312205610.GA30897@pryan.ekaia.org\">ana<\/a>))<\/li>\n<li>extend internship-like programs to other kinds of work (packaging, documentation, etc.)<\/li>\n<li>localize -mentors@ (mailing lists + IRC channels for DE, FR, ES contributors) (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312121803.GA27952@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>organize IRC schools\/seminars about e.g. packaging (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312185542.GD8069@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>introduce more <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gamification\">gamification<\/a> in mentoring (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/87li9mn5wy.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu\">rra<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Infrastructure, processes, releases:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>improve infrastructure to help with team maintenance (e.g. PET) (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130312212854.GC10655@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>authorize NMUs for archive-wide changeovers such as \/usr\/doc -&gt; \/usr\/share\/doc \u00a0(from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/a73c88bc3efa77973876195aeb05b5a3@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>increase visibility of RC bugs squashers by listing them in Debian Project News (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130311131914.GA8916@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>provide inexpensive non-monetary gifts (free t-shirts?) to RC bug squashers (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130313104645.GA30035@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>re-open discussion on gradual freezes (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130311131914.GA8916@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>), focus attention on more important packages by improving tools (from <a>lucas<\/a>) and removing packages earlier (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/85eb03fe52ce5a224cd9c82e5a7e6e19@www.morayallan.com\">moray<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130311131914.GA8916@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>involve upstreams and downstreams in RC bug fixing (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/87vc8reess.fsf@galadriel.madhouse-project.org\">algernon<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Relationships with upstreams\/downstreams:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>use Debian money to sponsor maintainers to attend upstream events (from <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.debian.org\/20130310225629.GC23114@xanadu.blop.info\">lucas<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This list could be moved to wiki.d.o if others find sufficiently useful to help maintaining it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After one week of campaign on -vote@, many subjects have been mentioned already. I&#8217;m trying here to list the concrete, actionable ideas I found interesting (does not necessarily mean that I agree with all of them) and that may be worth further discussion at a less busy time. There&#8217;s obviously some amount of subjectivity in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-763","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-planetdebian"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/763","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=763"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/763\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":772,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/763\/revisions\/772"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=763"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=763"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lucas-nussbaum.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=763"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}